Help Identifying this Aboriginal hand tool

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Help Identifying this Aboriginal hand tool

Post by Hillsboy on Fri 30 May 2014, 3:01 pm

Hey all,

I found this a few trips ago, wrong colour I know Razz and my son wants to use it for a school project so I thought I would try to find out some more about it.

I know nothing about this sort of thing so I thought I'd ask here.

All I can tell you is that it was found in an area that looked like an old camp, I mean like real old, it was right near a dry creek bed and you could see where the rocks where worn smooth from what we could guess looked like some sort of grinding, kind like a big mortar and pestle. There were a few other bit that were broken which in hindsight I should have grabbed.

Anyway I just wondered what exactly it was used for and is called and roughly how old would it be?

Or does anyone know anyone or know where I could find out more info about it?

Thanks in advance

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It feels like it fitted someones hand slightly smaller than mine...

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Re: Help Identifying this Aboriginal hand tool

Post by snapper on Fri 30 May 2014, 3:29 pm

Not to sure what it could be as it doesn't look smooth enough to be a grinding tool.[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Above is a quartz grinding stone.
I have some pics of other grinding stones and will post when I find them
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Re: help identifying this aboriginal hand tool

Post by aussie18 on Fri 30 May 2014, 3:49 pm

just a wild guess but was thinking it was used as a weapon when the boys are on the wobbla, or a sex tool for the lady's no no no bad picture in my head,
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Re: Help Identifying this Aboriginal hand tool

Post by snapper on Fri 30 May 2014, 3:52 pm

If it fits nicely in your hand it could be a conch [don't know the spelling] you know, whoever holds it is the speaker haha
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Re: Help Identifying this Aboriginal hand tool

Post by Hillsboy on Fri 30 May 2014, 4:55 pm

Yeah I don't think it's for grinding, could be a weapon....

Found this on google, no pic but,

Hafted Heads

These are quite heavy, and are made from Greywacke. From the amount of surface weathering they appear to be very old, and they do not appear to have been very sharp. One end bears a convex ground cutting edge, the other is a more rounded clublike shape. They have a groove around the middle for a bark or split lath handle. From their weight and shape they seem more suitable as weapons than for cutting or shaping wood.

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Re: Help Identifying this Aboriginal hand tool

Post by Viper on Sat 31 May 2014, 11:14 am

To me looks like a digging tool... put into a shaft of  piece of Mulga & bound up it would resemble a adze or pick.

Mostly the natives ate vegetarian or insects, a roo  or Bungarra if they were fortunate. A digging tool like this would be a very handy item.

For tubers, honey ants, Bardi grubs etc

By the way it is now illegal to remove native artifacts from their locations ... so be very careful how you advertise your find

Like anybody I was guilty of walking off with a few items before I realised that they belong where they belong.

There is never a time in the bush where I do not find artifacts, once you know what you are looking for they are like neon signs

I prefer now to sit & wonder... take in the ambiance... & realise what a hard life it was to scrape a feed every day of the year..

That's why they became & still are fringe dwellers its all about food  Wink 
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Re: Help Identifying this Aboriginal hand tool

Post by Hillsboy on Mon 02 Jun 2014, 2:13 pm

Yeah thanks for the heads up in doing some research I see it is now illegal, didn't know that at the time so yeah I'll be taking pics next time for sure....

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Re: Help Identifying this Aboriginal hand tool

Post by Guest on Tue 03 Jun 2014, 8:12 am

Hillsboy
get in touch with the Aboriginal Heratige and Archelogical organisations that handles such items of interest.
Do Not Advertise for sale.
Explain to them what u have and get them to come and pick them up for further investigation..to b sure.
If you have GPS co-ordinates then the rest will b history..

Good Luck.

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oneday

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Re: Help Identifying this Aboriginal hand tool

Post by CrazyPete on Thu 05 Jun 2014, 9:38 am

Ahhhhhhh!!  Shocked Wink 

Ive seen heaps of these in me bush travels all over good old Oz.
Now i could be way off the mark here but, i reckon it's an "old" one of these Aboriginal hand tools   Suspect Razz Razz 
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Re: Help Identifying this Aboriginal hand tool

Post by albo on Thu 05 Jun 2014, 9:33 pm

dunno hillsboy if it is an aborig tool at all , iv found & left plenty of grind stones & the grind plates , found in mulga areas to mill seeds , usually they are some metres apart & are left in that position to indicate the direction of waterholes & the distance between the stones told how far the waterhole . as for that one, does it resemble the surrounding rock rubble ? the outstanding thing iv noticed is that the stones are usually different from that area that are left & also that one looks too rough to be anything , most tools were of very hard stone , smoothish eg dolerite / granatoids & the hand grinders were quartz usually ...im not an anthropologist myself ,just stuff iv noticed .
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Re: Help Identifying this Aboriginal hand tool

Post by snapper on Sun 08 Jun 2014, 1:40 pm

Here is another grinding stone, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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