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Post by Bignuggs on Mon 02 Feb 2015, 2:46 pm

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Re: New 7000

Post by toad on Mon 02 Feb 2015, 3:29 pm

Minelab are stating a 40% increase in depth over the GPX 5000 and the list price will be just over $10,500.00
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Re: New 7000

Post by bluedog on Mon 02 Feb 2015, 3:43 pm

How deep a hole you want to dig l;wfh l;wfh
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Re: New 7000

Post by Bignuggs on Mon 02 Feb 2015, 3:47 pm

Col, it has to deeper than the hole I dig for myself at times  

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Re: New 7000

Post by toad on Mon 02 Feb 2015, 6:08 pm

Well I guess we're going to find out just how many ounce plus are just out of reach of the current technology. I'm sure we'll have an idea within the first three months of them being in the field.
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Post by Inhere on Mon 02 Feb 2015, 7:26 pm

toad wrote:Well I guess we're going to find out just how many ounce plus are just out of reach of the current technology.  I'm sure we'll have an idea within the first three months of them being in the field.

Yeah, I'm predicting the odd nugget and several hundredweight of trash in the deep Vic patches. Shocked affraid
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Re: New 7000

Post by Bignuggs on Mon 02 Feb 2015, 8:00 pm

Here's a prediction from someone who knows nothing.
Hang on to ya 5000's.  You have all seen this carry on before.
Am I convinced this new detector is the greatest ? no I'm not but that's just my opinion.
we saw it with every detector ML have bought out, the next one is the greatest.  But we have seen the old 4500 can still outdo the 5000 at times.  What does that say to you ?
You have the 2300 as the back up, do you really need to be rushing out buying this new machine when we have seen no test vid clips in Oz.
My opinion is, it is pointed at the USA market.  Only time will tell what it can do here and until it does it, stick with what you have.

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Re: New 7000

Post by Guest on Mon 02 Feb 2015, 8:24 pm

thank god they r your own opinion..

10,500 --any one else want to have a go coz its pure speculation and no one will know till at least Wednesday arvo USA time..thats my humble opinion.

then once released we will have the usual protractors whinging about this that and price--the smart people on the money will shut up and tell no one how well they r going. Look what happened with the 2300--people who don't own one are still whinging--gold help me..

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Re: New 7000

Post by Wedgetail on Mon 02 Feb 2015, 9:29 pm

As a guy that pushes and also knows a heap of others that do, I reckon any new machine that's not based on something other or better than PI is going to disappoint. It can't possibly be a massive leap that came with PI vs VLF because from what I've read the 7k is simply PI on steroids - quiet steroids. It may well find small stuff at depth, much like a 2300. But that's just "deeper on smaller". Glad I have a jackhamnmer 'cos digging 3 feet for one gramme is going to be pissing off a few people and that may even get people into a spot of bother to boot as they become tempted to use mechanisation in places where they shouldn't.

But after pushing 13 patches on 7 tenements for practically nothing, I can tell you that deep, big gold is not as readily found as we might like to believe. My mates who push are all saying the same thing. If the big gold is not in the ground, the detector can't invent it. You'd be surprised how deep that deep ground isn't,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and the 5000 has been clearing the stuff out for 4 years now.

I'll buy one. Why? Because I can and I'll try it. But I won't be holding my breath that it's going to produce amazing things like the SD2000 did. I hope I'm wrong.

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Re: New 7000

Post by Guest on Mon 02 Feb 2015, 11:43 pm

give it time....its a complete waste of time getting to hot and bothered about what it can do,cant do or what it should have done till u actually try it in yah hot little hands.

The big gold may not be in the ground were a lot of people have disturbed the ground over their patch however its not to say gold isn't out there a bit further.

If u have dug or scraped down to bed rock and taken the gold from situ then no mater what u use the law of averages tells me that there wont be anything left.

Maybe some of yah mates r getting the 40% deeper confused with the 40% bigger that we all aspire to. One can only hope.

For instance talking of deep ground--out at Rays patch we have dug down and found another layer of gravels, round rocks etc that bears gold that was 3 feet from the surface if any detector can detect that deep then god help us.
Considering we can get down about 2' now maybe that's why the wallies in the political throws have up the ante on the cost of POW_P--he has insider info...

U still have a few weeks to go befor anymore legitimate info will be released, so just take it in yah stride because befor u know it Easter will be here and it might be a late cyclone season to really pee everyone off as well.

Maybe its time for me to come down and do a bit of loaming on some of those patches u found to be bare...reckon I can change yah fortune around--bugger me were have we heard that one..

most of us have a jack hammer to be sure, and if I had to dig down 3 foot for a piece of gold I think I would still be a happy chappy coz at $1650 an oz or $55 a gram and growing that's not bad...if it hit $3000 an oz then u cant tell me u wouldn't be digging down for any target fearing it might only be a gram. That's nearly $100 a gram and don't forget u don't know the size of the target at the bottom of the hole,

u find them --i'll dig em and trust me gold is gold and I will bring down a 70cc auger to help me raise that little bugger from the abyss. I don't care if I damage it or not coz a bar of gold that has been smelted still looks the goods.
Shiny and yellow.

One has to ask if it can achieve 40% deeper realisation with a 14" round coil then what can be done with say a 18" or 22" round coil?

I think we are headed into exciting times--well I sure am getting excited coz I know there is still a lot of potential good gold bearing ground up here.

all will be revealed we just have to be patient. Don't bust yah pooper over all the negative stuff that u can think off--think positive. That 100 oz season cant b too far away.

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Re: New 7000

Post by martinjsto on Mon 02 Feb 2015, 11:59 pm

so is this the machine called the jupiter cuz i hear thats the new top end machine

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Re: New 7000

Post by Guest on Tue 03 Feb 2015, 12:13 am

this old girl is called Jupiter--


she'll leave everything in its stride. Battery lasts for a few years, wireless, own digging picks. Just stay away from the rear end coz when she farts the bush catches fire.. lol!

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Re: New 7000

Post by Guest on Tue 03 Feb 2015, 4:53 am

As I suspected this machine is following the same lines as the ctx3030, and only time will tell if it will do what they are saying it will, but my first reaction is that it is going to be limited if the only coil available is the attached 14" one, no mention of other sized coils?, sometimes conditions don't allow for the use of a big coil, and some people simply don't want or cant swing the weight, and if its anything like the garrett atx then other coils will be expensive as well.

Anyway will wait to let the bullshite and bulldust clear and see what happens, one of two things, the first will be that it truly is a game changer and the first users will kill the pig cheers or the second thing will be it could be only average and people will regret the huge outlay and lose money trying to offload it

Until it proves itself to be able to get consistent gold like the 4500 will then I would prefer to wait and see, its not the cost that is the biggest factor in my opinion but I want to see real facts and users reviews rather than listen to sales hype.

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Re: New 7000

Post by Wedgetail on Tue 03 Feb 2015, 9:03 am

Ray,

The last time I had one of these,"That 100 oz season cant b too far away.", was about 17 years ago and that's after using just about every machine ML ever put out since the old 15000 silver devil! My mates know the game, they should do, they been doing it for nigh on 30 years and know the ground they work "inside out".

My dearest and most or profound wish is that this 7K is the wonder machine that the SD series was before it. Why? 'Cos it'll probably be the final detector for me. As the years have passed, the gold is getting less whilst the paperwork is getting more and the gold isn't paying enough to cover the bills. I'm not one of those people that go out bush primarily to enjoy the flora and fauna with the gold being a close second. It either pays or get out of it, that's my motto. After 30 odd years of it, I've seen all the bloody eagles, roos, snakes, campfires and indijs that I ever want to see. 9 years ago when I retired from full time work, I promised myself that I'd never go prospecting ever again. But, after trying the "round Australia" thing for 5 months and getting the ar*e bored off me, doing the cruise thing and planning to jump overboard 'cos I was that fed up, I got back in the bipping game, with the only thing I had left - an SD 2100. Now, here I am today, with all the latest gear, still seeing the game do down the gurgler - but slowly. Advertising blurb doesn't cut it for me Ray and I've seen detectors come and go over decades. Show me the test data, Minelab.

So the 7K either pays out or it's a loser IMO. Simple. I'm sorry, but paying 8 to 10 thousand dollars to follow a hobby is not on my reading list. I'll buy one, thrash it and if it don't pay WHAT I WANT IT TO PAY, it's gone.

BTW - "loaming my patches"? Help yourself any time ya like. By the time we've pushed down to cement and greenstone cap, there's bugger all left to loam! But knock yerself out any time Ray. You're always welcome.

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Re: New 7000

Post by sandgroper on Wed 04 Feb 2015, 4:57 pm

Looks just like my CTX 3030, in a different colour
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Re: New 7000

Post by Guest on Wed 04 Feb 2015, 5:14 pm

YES SANDGROPER its in the same packet..good way to save on costs coz you already have the moulds--just make sure when u buy a second hand one u buy the ridgy didge one..some little chinese counterfitter will have a go at this ---i bet u not.

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Re: New 7000

Post by Banjo on Wed 04 Feb 2015, 8:04 pm

the 7000 housing looks to be longer than the CTX.

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Re: New 7000

Post by Guest on Fri 13 Feb 2015, 9:22 pm

I like JP's comment --when tested against the 5000 with a 20" coil on --the 7000 blew it away..

mind u if u r fat and have weak arms and trouble with yah shoulders then this machine is going to really give u the sh#ts.

Its heavier than the 5k and u need the pro swing 45 to man handle it.. I know my mrs is strong but she is seriously going to struggle.

getting closer to being part of the next best thing to hit the goldfields.

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Re: New 7000

Post by Banjo on Fri 13 Feb 2015, 11:31 pm

Ray you should be up here with me pumping iron at Daz's Gymnasium & Aquatic Centre in preparation for the oncoming season Very Happy

I was doing biceps yesty and thought geez it's a little hotter than the usual 35-36 where i train, yep it was 38 according to my old trusty pirate ship thermometer iv'e had since i was 8.
I am going to have to cut some drain holes in the double pluggers though to let the sweat seep out instead of squelching around in them, anyway finished off with some stiff legged deadies and hit the showers for a nice refreshing shower................wrong !

The water out of the cold water tap was 34

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Re: New 7000

Post by Guest on Sat 14 Feb 2015, 7:54 am

WELCOME to the North West...they are too busy giving us underground power yet u cant get cold water..mmmm

anyhow u wont need to do too much arm work coz when u get the 7k theres an extra kilo to swing.


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Re: New 7000

Post by Banjo on Sat 14 Feb 2015, 8:08 am

i don't want to end up like this Laughing



actually that was a very funny episode, they were all sitting around the Drunken Clam and someone mentioned surfing porn on the internet, Quagmire had never heard about it and was horrified he had been missing out, a few days later Peter said hi as he came out to check the letterbox and then lifted his arm to point only to reveal his recently acquired huge arm  Laughing

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Re: New 7000

Post by Guest on Sat 14 Feb 2015, 8:47 am

i bet u anything someone will get one and then a couple of weeks later sell it coz of some excuse--heavy--sore shoulder--limp wrist reaction--sore back--worn knee pads---digging too many deep holes etc etc..

will be a good buy for someone...try befor u buy----

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Re: New 7000

Post by Moneybox on Sat 14 Feb 2015, 8:52 am

The way I see it is if you're digging gold for a living you have to go for the best there is. For the rest of us that only get out there a few times a year and fossicking/prospecting is a hobby and an addition to our holiday there's no point in blowing the budget on something that is unlikely to ever make enough difference to be worth it.

40% deeper is not going to help much when we find most targets up to 100mm down.

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Post by Wedgetail on Sat 14 Feb 2015, 12:59 pm

Moneybox wrote:The way I see it is if you're digging gold for a living you have to go for the best there is. For the rest of us that only get out there a few times a year and fossicking/prospecting is a hobby and an addition to our holiday there's no point in blowing the budget on something that is unlikely to ever make enough difference to be worth it.

40% deeper is not going to help much when we find most targets up to 100mm down.

MB,

You've hit the nail, mate. This will be a wonderful machine, no doubt, it'll make detecting easier, it's simple to operate, it's quieter and handles the severe ground well. But, same as everything from the early Garrets in late 60s, through to the SD and GP series, this is too expensive a machine to just be a "hobby" machine. To make this pay, one in a 500 blokes may get lucky and crack a big new patch or a big one down deep. The rest of those that buy will find it'll be long, but not too hard a grind, to make a handsome profit.

You are also right about that "100mm". That's where most of the stuff is, but I'd go as far as 200mm. I push and I've seen it with my own eyes. This 7000 will clean out what's left on any old patches in WA. But it's best attribute is that it will find many new patches just like all it's predecessors.

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Re: New 7000

Post by Bignuggs on Sat 14 Feb 2015, 5:23 pm

It's only my opinion but I reckon it will kill the detecting game.
So be it, you will now have the machine that will clean out the surface gold and destroy what has been a hobby for a lot of people.
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