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Post by martinjsto on Sat 26 May 2018, 9:56 am



  

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It seems the WA govn have plans to create a network of new national parks throughout WA. The plan is to buy up abandoned pastoral leases and create a national park out of them. 12 million hectare needs to be allocated throughout the pilbara mid west and gascoyne.

I asked them what is happening and how this effects us prospectors. Not looking good from their responce. I have copied it bellow. Hope APLA  are aware. If not they will be soon...

Hi Martin, apologies that your messages went unnoticed. They came through at a time when we received quite a few others. 

It is correct that you cannot prospect in National Parks. I am not certain about Nature Reserves or Conservation Reserves though I can find out. In any case not all the properties will become National Parks as some would be more suited to the other forms of conservation tenure. This is ultimately up to the government to decide.

I might add though that creating Ranger Parks would only be putting 5 million hectares in total (across the Pilbara, Midwest and Gascoyne) into the reserve system. The former pastoral leases in question have very high conservation value, hence why they were purchased with commonwealth funding in the first place, to try to reach the national reserve target of 15% of all vegetation systems represented in reserves. 

WA will need 12 million hectares to even reach that target... so Ranger Parks are merely a small blip and a necessary one to protect some of what precious landscapes and threatened species we have left.

Does that answer your question? Happy to provide further information if needed.




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Post by travelergold on Sat 26 May 2018, 3:11 pm

Bloo#y hell. Not good news.

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Post by Nanjim on Sat 26 May 2018, 3:29 pm

Not a good look....
We always seem to be loosing area...

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Post by geof_junk on Sat 26 May 2018, 5:38 pm

WA goldfields were the last open detecting areas in Australia. It will not be long before you will not even be able to pick up a sunbaker even with a existing Miner-Right.

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Post by Trinket on Sun 27 May 2018, 7:34 pm

They've been doing this for years now. The land is bought with federal funding and managed by Parks and Wildlife. They've already aquired 48 Ex pastoral leases in the Gascoyne, Murchison and Goldfields regions. Once these former leases become conservation reserves it is unlawful to prospect or fossick without a mining tenement under the mining act.
Depending on the district funding available in the region, these ex staions can have conservation workers, volunteers and Rangers crawling over them locking gates and putting up signs.
I believe the APLA and other stakeholders have been working on an environmental permit system to allow miners right holders access to these lands.
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Post by Wedgetail on Sun 27 May 2018, 7:56 pm

Settle down boys. APLA is on to this after an APLA member was challenged last month by a ranger in one of the new "Ranger Parks". It was Karrara Park which is the old Warriedar Station. I challenged the DLPH back again and proved that these parks ARE NOT National Parks. We really have to be very careful to use the correct names here. Don't fall for the stunt they pull saying these parks are actual National Parks. THEY ARE NOT!!

There are only two types of parks in which mining is either banned, which is the National Park, or extremely controlled but not entirely banned, which is the "A Class Reserve". Source is the WA Lands Administration Act.

I wrote to the two WA Govt Ministers regarding this issue arguing my point that the Ranger was wrong. One Minister, Paul Papallia has washed his hands of it, "not my job" and the other which is Rita Saffioti hasn't yet replied. It's been while now, but anyone who reads APLA Facebook page knows I've been busy fighting and winning legal battles with some corporate pastoral companies.

Anyway, DMIRS phoned me last week asking if I'd had a response about the Ranger Parks. When I told them I hadn't, they are now going to contact the DLPH and Ritai Saffioti.

Meanwhile, we wait and tell the ranger he's wrong,,,,,and then ring me. Twisted Evil

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Post by Trinket on Sun 27 May 2018, 8:23 pm

Found this in a Parks and Wildlife doc, maybe their take on the mining act is different from that of a prospector hence the Rangers Stance.
1. Are prospecting and fossicking allowed on these lands?
Under the Mining Act 1978 and Mining Regulations 1981, there are particular requirements for prospecting and fossicking, relating to the class of land involved. While the proposed conservation reserves remain unallocated Crown land, a Miner's Right holder has a right to access areas not covered by a granted mining tenement under the Mining Act.
Once the former pastoral properties become conservation reserves it would not be lawful to fossick or prospect on these lands without a mining tenement under the Mining Act. Accordingly DPaW, the Department of Mines and Petroleum, the Amalgamated Prospectors and Leaseholders Association, and the Association of Mining and Exploration Companies have begun discussing options to provide for access to some rangelands conservation reserves, once established, under a Mining Act Miner's Right, including development of a simple permit system under the Conservation and Land Management Act 1984 (CALM Act). Such an approach, if adopted, would require amendments to the Mining Act and consequential amendments to the CALM Act.
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Post by Moneybox on Thu 21 Jun 2018, 2:53 pm

We all want access to as much land as we can but we still have to be conscious of the way we are wiping out natural habitats, forests and their inhabitants. Australians, particularly farmers and miners, have done irreparable damage to the environment and continue to do so. Somebody somewhere has to take a stand to help protect what we have left.

Saying that, the small prospectors and fossickers leave a very small footprint but there are still the careless ones who continue to leave a trail of damage and pollution in their wake.

It must be a difficult job to try to find a balance. Who's to say that a national park or any other reserve should only be accessible to the tourist industry, large miners and the like? There is a fair percentage of the population now using fossicking and prospecting as a form of healthy outdoor exercise and recreation and we all need that for a healthy happy lifestyle.

As much as we dislike many of the decisions made in government, we are responsible for voting them into power. Thankfully we have organisations such as APLA to help combat some of the seemingly mindless actions that politicians take.

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Post by Nightjar on Fri 22 Jun 2018, 7:40 am

Here is some old info from way back in 2007 or there abouts, the earliest purchase was in 1998;

INFORMATION ABOUT THE PURCHASE OF PASTORAL LEASES FOR INCLUSION INTO THE CONSERVATION ESTATE BY THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT AND CONSERVATION
The Department of Environment and Conservation (DEC) has purchased 54 pastoral leases (sheep and cattle stations) throughout Western Australia for inclusion into the conservation estate (see attached list and map). DEC is mainly seeking the creation of Conservation Parks (unclassified) as an interim reserve, with the objective of later converting them, if appropriate, to National Parks or Class A Nature Reserves.
These pastoral lease purchases will increase the area of conservation reserves in Western Australia from just under 7% to just over 9%. By acquiring further land, DEC is aiming to have at least 15% of the land area of the State within conservation reserves (national parks and nature reserves) by 2029. Details of this policy, as outlined in the draft “The 100-year Biodiversity Conservation Strategy for Western Australia”, can be found at http://www.dec.wa.gov.au/pdfs/Biodiversity_10.pdf.
Under current Government policy, exploration and mining is prohibited within National Parks and Nature Reserves but may occur in Conservation Parks. Any exploration and mining tenement within a Conservation Park is subject to the following:

More stringent requirements;
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Activities are controlled by both DoIR and DEC,
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Approvals from additional authorities, including Conservation Commission of Western Australia (CCWA) and DEC for activities that involve environmental disturbance,
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Unconditional Performance Bonds may be required for environmental disturbance in the exploration phase,
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No establishment of camps, etc on the licence area without prior approval from DoIR and DEC, and
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A net environmental benefit may need to be demonstrated to progress to the mining phase.

The holder of a prospecting or exploration licence in a Conservation Park does not have automatic approval for the subsequent grant of a mining lease in accordance with Section 75 of the Mining Act;

Written consent of Minister for Resources after consultation with Minister for the Environment, DEC and Conservation Commission; and

The Miner’s Right does not apply.
To check if your tenements are affected please use DoIR’s Tengraph system or GeoView – DoIR’s interactive geological map system (http://www.doir.wa.gov.au/aboutus/geoview_launch.asp) – tick “DEC purchased pastoral leases” under “Special Category Lands”.
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WHOLE AND PART PASTORAL LEASES ACQUIRED FOR CONSERVATION
Lease name
Year of Purchase by DEC
Area (ha)
Land description
Proposed tenure
Barnong (part)
1999
22,482
Victoria Location 12347
Nature Reserve (preferred) otherwise Conservation Park
Bidgemia (part)
1999
6,623
Gascoyne Location 511
National Park (addition to Kennedy Range)
Black Range
2000
79,329
Kaluwiri Location 71
Conservation Park
Boologoroo (part)
2001
14,899
Gascoyne Location 575 on Deposited Plan 28548
Conservation Park
Bulga Downs (part)
2002
112,290
Bulga Location 32 & Bulga Location 28
Conservation Park
Burnerbinmah
1995
59,908
Warramboo Location 118 & Ninghan
Location 4257
Conservation Park
Cashmere Downs (part)
2002
51,637
Bulga Location 29
Conservation Park
Charnley River
1992
35,625
Easton Location 7
Conservation Park
Cobra
2000
136,724
Lyons Location 38
Conservation Park
Credo
2007
202,162
Ularring Location 12 & Jaurdi Location 61
Conservation Park
Dalgaranga
2006
102,549
Warramboo Location 93
Conservation Park
Dalgety Downs (part)
1999
100,608
Lyons Location 58
Conservation Park
Doolgunna
2001
189,342
Erivilla Location 40 & Thadoona Location 9
Conservation Park
Earaheedy
1999
321,818
Wells Location 3 & Hann Location 4
Conservation Park
Giralia
2002
230,899
Lyndon Location 167
Conservation Park
Goongarrie
1991
100,685
Jaurdi Location 65, Marmion Location 42 & Ularring Location 14
Conservation Park
Jaurdi
1989
284,207
Jaurdi Locations 131 and 135
Conservation Park
Jimba Jimba (part)
1999
5,636
Gascoyne Location 512
National Park (addition to Kennedy Range)
Kadji Kadji
2003
46,915
Conservation Park
Kaluwiri (part)
2003
103,640
Kaluwiri Location 60 as shown on Deposited Plan 238007
Conservation Park
Karara
2002
109,291
Ninghan Locations 4278, 4290, 4291, 3539, 3521 - 3534, 3615 - 3617 and portion of each of Ninghan Locations 3618, 3619, 3535 - 3538 and 3540
Conservation Park
Lake Mason
2000
149,317
Kaluwiri Location 74
Conservation Park
Lochada
2000
114,581
Ninghan Location 4266, Victoria Locations 11819 & 11821
Conservation Park
Lorna Glen
2000
244,000
Hann Location 8 & Nabberu Location 27
Conservation Park
Lyons River (part)
1999
11,013
Gascoyne Location 509
National Park (addition to Kennedy Range) Page 2 of 5
Lease name
Year of
Purchase by
DEC
A(hrae)a Land description Proposed tenure
Mardathuna (part)
1999
31,818
Gascoyne Location 510
National Park (addition to Kennedy Range)
Meentheena
1999
218,437
De Grey Location 30
Conservation Park
Middalya (part)
1999
13,582
Gascoyne Location 507
National Park (addition to Kennedy Range)
Minnie Creek (part)
2001
6,713
Gascoyne Location 572 on Deposited Plan 26040
National Park (addition to Kennedy Range)
Mooka
2000
80,931
Gascoyne Location 427
National Park (addition to Kennedy Range)
Mooloogool
1999
402,467
Erivilla Location 36, Thadoona Location 11 & Kyarra Location 143
Conservation Park
Mount Minnie
1999
110,921
Ashburton Location 150
Conservation Park
Mt Elvire
1991
157,183
Ularring Location 43 on Miscellaneous Plan 19730
Conservation Park
Mt Florance (part)
2000
13,423
Windell Location 207, Gregory Location 118
National Park (addition to Karijini)
Mt Phillip (part)
2000
114,273
Lyons Location 60
Conservation Park
Muggon
1999
182,743
Murchison Location 214
Conservation Park
Murchison House (part)
Murchison House (part)
2005
2005
37,578
8,529
Lot 3031 and Lot 3033 on Deposited Plan 45067
Lot 3035 and Lot 3037 on Deposited Plan 45068
Nature Reserve (addition to unclassified Zuytdorp Nature Reserve No. 34771)
National Park (addition to Kalbarri National Park class A Reserve No. 27004)
Nanga
2000
174,597
Edel Location 73
Conservation Park
Nanutarra (part)
1999
70,030
Ashburton Location 217
Conservation Park
Narloo
2002
14,998
Victoria Location 11806
Conservation Park
Nerren Nerren (part)
2006
104,247
Lot 368 on Deposited Plan 52033
Nature Reserve (addition to unclassified Zuytdorp Nature Reserve No. 34771)
Noongal
2006
71,069
Warramboo Location 92
Conservation Park
Pimbee
1998
98,612
Gascoyne Location 439 & Murchison Location 245
Conservation Park
Tamala (part)
2006
56,261
Lot 366 on Deposited Plan 48624
Nature Reserve (addition to unclassified Zuytdorp Nature Reserve No. 34771)
Thundelarra
2007
156,128
Ninghan Location 4262
Not known
Twin Peaks (part)
2002
27,300
Victoria Locations 12629 & 12630 on Deposited Plan 28859
Conservation Park
Waldburg
1999
246,830
Lyons Location 40 & Teano Location 25
Conservation Park
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Lease name
Year of
Purchase by
DEC
A(hrae)a Land description Proposed tenure
Wanna (part)
2003
288,897
Lot 37 on Deposited Plan 36256
Conservation Park
Warriedar
2004
72,220
Ninghan Location 4261
Conservation Park
Williambury (part)
1999
21,061
Gascoyne Location 508
National Park (addition to Kennedy Range)
Wooleen (part)
2002
8,785
Murchison Location 334 on Deposited Plan 30446
Conservation Park
Woolgorong
2005
115,974
Murchison Location 232 & Victoria Location 11810
Conservation Park
Yaringa (part)
2001
19,396
Murchison Location 325
Conservation Park
Yuin (part)
2002
59,977
Victoria Locations 12627 and 12628 on Deposited Plan 28860
Conservation Park
TOTAL
5,821,160

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